Category: Zone BBS Suggestions and Feedback
Okay here's my point all users not just premiums should be given the same amount of time in an audio profile of 2 minutes. Also give everyone the ability to customize there log in and log out messages. instead of even having a premium membership available make all features avalable to all users and lean on the sponsers and hit them up for more funding.
Bad idea for a lot of reasons.
First of all, there's not enough sponsers to make it worth while just to have them pay more to cover the costs.
They get a lot more money from us premi's then from the sonsers paying 25 dollars.
That's assuming of course that they'd be willing to pay more which I highly doubt.
As for your other suggestions.
Audio profiles take up more space so that wouldn't work, plus they need some way of making it worth your while to be come premium.
well there comes my argument, the things premium users get arent really worth 25 bucks, i mean yeah we get longer audio profiles but lets just say, for most of us, the audio over the phone is well..um you know
some audio profiles do sound really good, however i have noticed some people don't even sound like they really do on skype, yeah i know its not skype but who knows, it just might be me too, and the ability to review quicknotes, whats that?i mean yeah it might be nice for some people but it just prooves to me they can code, more than anything, like a lot of worthless stuff on here imo
oh.....wow!. chris, you even took the trouble to post this?. here are my thaughts:. 1 if all features are for standard users, then users are not going to want to donate to this site. it would be a waste of money, as there would be nothing for them if they payed. it's um....a total waste!. secondly, 25 dollars is not much. i mean, if you really want features like that, you would pay for them, rite?. on a plus side, i think there should be 2 levels of premium membership. 25 dolars, for a year, and let's say.....50 for life?. i really don't know
ok here's my opinion...
Firstly, if you want to be able to use the premium membership features, then just buy a membership. That's the simple fact of it. I personally don't think 25 dollars is much to pay to be honest, and by the evidence, neither do many other zoners as they've chosen to become premium members in the first place. Actions speak louder than words...and all that milarkey.
Secondly, why should the sponsors pay more to make it free for all users? It's our site, if we want it to stay profitable and secure it's long term future, then surely it should be us who pays? I mean, why should sponsors subsidise our contributions when it's our comunity?
Lastly, I don't think any of the features on this site are pointless. I actually like the quick note echo feature as it enables me to see where my quick notes fall in the conversation and not only that, but I can check I haven't made any typing errors I may have missed when proof reading them before sending.
Basically what I'm saying is, if users want the premium membership features, just simply do what's required and buy them. Simple as that.
The only reason I bought the premium membership is for the SSL, and it's worth every cent.
primium is that for a reason. 25 dollars for a whole year is not that much. Maybe if you pray hard enough you can come up with the money for that too because god will feel charitable and grant it to you from the sky. It also sounds like you needed to help fill your 20 seconds and the point of a audio profile isn't to have long siolences. There are my thoughts
Ok, simple if all features should be available for all users, make it a subscription only site. The people who work to make the site what it is don't get payed for it, and the bandwidth and server space we require wouldn't exist if some of us didn't support the site by paying this small amount.
As for 2 levels, I think maybe $25 for a year, and say $50 for 3 years could be a worthwhile consideration, but for life, forget it, after a while there is no way to gain extra financial support if that were to happen.
I just wish people would stop creating boards like this one to gripe about something that is so small, if you don't agree with paying, simple don't pay, and don't get. if you want the features seeing as they aren't pointless, then just pay up and shut up.
I bring nothing to the table, other than to question whether this topic belongs on the Joke Board.
it should cause criss is a cheap jew!
oh forgot christian lol
why should we get everything free? software and site developers and developers of all products need to make their money. development costs a great deal more than the customer sees in most cases. grow up, and if yu want the features offered, then pay up.
So ... Where to start then. Perhaps with a thank you, I mean it's always nice to see a topic that has never been discussed to death before don't you all think? LOL.
Firstly to selena fans love. A little lesson in fiscal reality if you will. This is only a small web site, with a limited number of users and an equally limited number of staff to run the place. So two questions with those factors taken into account. Who do you think should go round doing all this leaning on sponsors for more money? and, why should sponsors consider paying more cash to spread the word of whatever it maybe that they're advertising to such a small number of potential clients? I mean, consider this, if we took the revenue from premium memberships away we'd probably have to put the price of advertising space up considerably. Admittedly this is only an estimate but I'd suggest that we'd have to get something like $50 a month from advertisers instead of the current $10 which is a pretty extreme price hike, and really, who is going to pay that given that at the moment we only have a small handful of sponsors paying $10. In short, leaning on our sponsors for more money isn't an option even if the sites staff had the time to do such things, which we don't.
Now that I come to think of it, one of the sites current sponsors is actually also a member and a premium one at that which brings me neatly enough onto my next point. Namely that said user appears to have grasped the basic concept of what the Zone is all about. It's a community. He generously puts his money into the community so that it may continue to function and, on a personal note, I hope he gets at least as much out of it as he puts in.
Now you may not feel the same way about this place of course and that's fine. You don't have to put cash in to support the community however, complaining because we aren't giving you absolutely everything on a plate is hardly in the spirit. This place needs some cash injection in order to keep running, and we give users the option to pay if they feel this place is worth while enough. That's entirely as it should be and complaining about it isn't going to change that.
queso-pig. Much of the reason for premium memberships I've already explained above so I can keep this reasonably short. What you care to call worthless I think many consider to be optional extras. The whole point of premium memberships is not to give somebody a completely different experience on the site if they pay, but to give additional features to enhance their experience. The underlying premise is this, if you come and join up for a standard membership you will basically be able to do everything. The idea was never to make people feel as though they had to pay this $25 a year for the sites features, it is all completely free and only if you feel that either the features are worth paying for, or that you'd just like to put something into the community, should you actually pay.
I'm done. Back to your bitching! LOL.
Dan.
well said
and you know whats funny the fact that most of the people that bitch about features not being free and not worth paying are the once that come on the most.
chris, your idea's crap!
The way i see it is as follows.
I would understand if people would complain about screen readers been expensive or even if they wanted a free one and i am one of these people. I am glad now that NVDA and thunder are available because without a screen reader the computer is unusable to us.So we are in a disadvantage from other people. But i don't understand people who ask for audio games to be free which are not, people who want all features here to be available etc. These things are not esential and nessesary for somebody to use the computer. In my oppinion is just a lactury. The extra features are here for people to donate as Dan said and for people who want to have something extra. But it is not the end of the world if somebody can't be invisable, have a long audio profile, create loggin messages etc. They still have plenty of free features to use. So for once again i will say that i disagree with topicks like this one. and we had a lot of them recently.
yep Dan, that's basically what I said, but I couldn't be bothered to spend time actually writing a load of shpeal about it...maybe I'm just lazy or something...lol
what can I say except maybe nothings free in life so deal with it or shut up about it.
I totally agree with you Chris not to sure about the sponser thing though. I also think they should make it so tha tall users could set up where we can recieve Mail watch.
I completely throw my support behind post 10.
chris, you should make up your mind if you're a christian or a jew. quit being tighter than a vergin gay man's asshole and just fork out the $25. It's not a life changing amount of money for god sakes.
when my premium membership comes up for renewal, I'll be paying the $25 for sure. my premium membership was purchased for me in the first place as a christmas present. and having seen what you can do, playing with the randomizer and the extra anagram is fun, plus there will be other features that will probably come along that only premiums can take advantage of.
There are some features that I do find pointless, like the person watch and the qn history, as I don't use either of these much. But so what? Most of the other premium features I do use, so what if there are a couple that don't interest me.
so to me, and apparently to a lot of my other fellow zoners, $25 per year is really not much to ask.
and another point also, I enjoy most of the time I spend here. So I might as well be able to enjoy all the features.
even if for what ever reason they had to jack up the price to $30 or even $40 a year, I'd still happily pay it. That's still not much to ask, especially when some sites charge you a monthly fee.
So in short, quit bitching.
Thank you, that is all.
Hi Chris I agree with you! You have a good point! It should be free! The $25 isn't worth it! Nicos I also use Nvdea I love it! Yes they have free audio games I use one! Everyone is picking on you for being a Christian! As a fellow Christian I say they're aren't of God! God bless you my bf! Thanks for your support too Toni!
you want everything free? I have the perfect government for you... communism.
...I give up
as i am sitting here on the site logged in invisibly, i must say that for this feature and this feature alone, i would pay more than the 25 a year. i mean come on it's just over 2 bucks a month. not much you can get in life for that price that offers you so much.
i would also like to say that the people in charge around here do a hell of a lot for this site. and if it weren't for premium memberships, there would be out of pocket expenses. i honestly think that our beloved cl's and admins do an awesome job and deserve a paycheck.
and before my pointless ramblin is over, i must make a comment on the fact that it has been stated that the 25 bucks isn't worth it and yet the premium features shall be free. well if they aren't worth it, then this says to me that those who aren't premium don't really care about them but yet are still complaining because they want them. to say something isn't worth it is cutting it down but yet obviously there is some desire to have the features and that they are cared about because this topic would have never been brought up.
i'm not even sure i am making sense to myself at this point, so i'll totally go off the topic of this board for a sec.
i would like to personally thank all of the cl's and admins for giving me the opportunity to come on here and meet new people and have a little fun. i would also like to thank those for having the premium option for a bit of extra added incentives.
and scott, lol.
Hello, I definitely agree with what everyone is saying. These features should only be for us who can pay for them.
Hmmm, well, majority seems to like the $25, so, I'm afraid that you 2, or 3, or however the hell many of you there were that want everything free just because you all are blind, and you believe that you're above everyone else, either learn to spend the money that you get every month from SSI, or go find another site to be on. Trust me, we won't lose any sleep if you were to go.
I agree with both Cam and maddog. The thing is, nothing in this world is free, you have to do something for it. Okay, so I didn't actually buy my premium membership, but when it comes time to re-new it, I will.
I see where you guys are coming from, however, some people can't afford it with paying for school, or at least I can't.
me and a lot of other people wish we could get a free premium membership. but it just aint gonna happen.
i do think that the qn history should be available to all users. i see people moaning every day on public qn's about there internet connections crashing. and some of the limitations on standard members are a little harsh.
but premiums are needed to keep this site going. i don't think the sponsors are gonna come up with the money. the zone will always offer a free service.
lastly, can we PLEASE STOP creating topic after topic after bloody topic about getting premium memberships for free! it's getting a little bit stupid! it looks like some people can't understand the word "premium".
I really liked Dan's post. It pretty much just sums up my feelings. Basically, quit bitching and moaning about how everything has to be handed to you. A lot of disabled people feel that paying a little out of pocket is like asking them to wipe their ass with a $50 bill and flush it down the toilet. Quite frankly, though I agree with some people that there are some pretty ridiculously high-priced commodities out there for disabled people, paying $25 a year is not at all too much to ask. The site is worth paying in to in my opinion, and I know it will continue to improve and make my measly $25 contribution worthwhile.
I agree the qn history should be available to all, since the qn's are logged anyway. But some of the features are worth paying for, like the increased betting limits, the extra anagram games, randomizers, and ssl.
ok, here goes
Ways to get around all of the restrictions they put on us standards.
1. private conferencing
head over to www.conferencetown.com and create an account over there. You can then create any conference code you want and have full web control, for free.
2. Audio profiles
Find someone who can host the profile for you and put a link to it in your text profile. Then in your audio profile, jsut say something like, look at my text profile for a link to my actual audio profile. it slightly inconveniences the user, but not very much. You could even put a link to it.
3. Voice mails in wave format
Simply three way them out to a simple voicebox, and download them from there. Not too hard to do if you know what you're doing.
4. Person watch
I have no idea how to do this, but if you have a program repeatedly downloading the zone's webpage, like say every 5 seconds, you can have it search through to see if someone is logged in or not.
This is pretty much all stuff that other people have told me, since i'm not a hugely technical person myself, but all of it makes sense and i actually have used conferencetown.com for conferencing. It works pretty well.
i hate to mention this pianogirl, but your last post was incomplete.
I shouldn't have said all restrictions, because that's not what I meant. But it wasn't incomplete.